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Foil Not Sticking

by Teressa
(Lincoln City, Oregon)

I made my very first stained glass project and found that the foil is coming up on all of the edges. Can I just re-solder or do I have to redo it all again? I am not sure how to get the foil to "stick" now. Thanks.

Answer

It sounds like one of two problems. Either the edges of your glass were not clean before you applied the foil, or you didn't burnish the foil well enough after you applied it.

I use a paper towel dampened with alcohol to wipe the edges of each piece just before I foil. The alcohol cleans off any grinder residue and removes oily finger prints.

After the foil is in place use a fid, chopstick stick, small wall paper roller, or I've even been known to use the side of a ball point pen, to go around all of the edges of the foil to make sure it is pressed down very well. If it isn't pressed down well enough, flux can get under the foil and cause it to lift.

Once the foil has lifted, there isn't much hope of it sticking down again especially if flux has seeped under it. It's best to pull the foil off, clean the glass and start over.

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Foil Not Sticking

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Aug 27, 2009
Isopropyl alcohol
by: Ken

Isopropyl alcohol is made in percentages of active ingredients 50%,70% alcohol and inactive ingredient purified water. I find that 70% USP works well for me.






Aug 23, 2009
Foill Not Sticking
by: Joyce - Mpls, MN

Thank you for your post. You have answered the question I submitted earlier. Which was - does foil get too old to use.

Aug 23, 2009
Rubbing Alcohol or Isopropyl?
by: Lisa Seger

Yesterday, I was told by another stained glass artist with much more experience than I, that rubbing alcohol shouldn't be used to clean the edges of the pieces because it has an oil base, while isopropyl alcohol is pure alcohol, no oil. What is your opinion on this information? This man was volunteering all sorts of info, but I hesitate to take the advise of a "competitor" at an art show when I know I can get the real deal from you.
Thanks Sue.

Answer
I had no idea there was a difference, so I did some research. From Wikipedia I learned that the term "rubbing alcohol" has become a general non-specific term for either isopropyl alcohol (isopropanol) or ethyl alcohol (ethanol) rubbing-alcohol products. Ethanol rubbing alcohol is prepared from a special denaturized alcohol solution and contains 97.5-100% by volume of pure, concentrated ethanol (ethyl alcohol). I could find no mention of oil in any of the articles that I read.

The alcohol that I use is isopropyl only because that's what's available around here.

As far as which one to use, I honestly don't know, but it appears that isopropyl is easier to find.

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