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Foil Trouble

by Donna
(Lowell, MA)

Hello,

I am working on a piece that consists of 4 different clear, heavily textured glass. No matter what, I can't get the foil to stay on the glass.

I did grind it, cleaned it several times, and when I fid (burnished it), the foil looks ok. In the curves it can just be brushed back.

Do you have any idea why? I have tried several foils.

Thank you,
Donna

Answer

Hi Donna,

Thank you for submitting your question.

You have a problem that frequently occurs with heavily textured glass, especially around curves.

First of all, use Edco brand foil if that isn't what you're already using. It has more stretch to it and can be worked into curves easier than Venture foil.

Make sure you ease the foil into the curve as you apply it. It is easy to pull the foil too tight as you go around the curve. When it comes time to burnish the foil, it is then difficult to get it to fit well into that curve. It will pop loose as fast as you try to push it back down.

Wipe the glass, well, with alcohol before you apply the foil. If the glass is heavily textured, you might need to use a tooth brush to scrub the alcohol into textured surfaces where the foil needs to stick. Wipe it dry after the alcohol scrub. Foil seems to stick better to an alcohol wiped surface.

Use an orange stick, wooden chop stick or even a piece of copper rod (that is used for making hinges for stained glass boxes), to burnish the foil around the curves. You need something narrow to fit down into the crevices. Make sure you burnish every bump and crevice around both sides of the curve so the foil is pushed down and touches glass every bit of that curve.

Try using a wider foil. It could be that your foil is too narrow and there isn't enough overlap to get it burnished well into those crevices.

Good luck with your project. If you'd like to, please put a picture on the photo gallery when it's done. We'd love to see what you're making. The textured glass should give it a lot of sparkle.

Sue

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Aug 22, 2010
Project falling apart NEW
by: Lynn, San Diego

OK, I'm using chandelier crystals and wrapping in copper, I burnish very well, no lifts, solder, clean, etc. In no time at all the project starts to fall apart. It comes apart from the foil touching the glass. I have tried hundreds of times to make it stick and it doesn't. I have also tried to reinforce with the heavy copper but it is so hard to work around the edges and I really don't know how to use it very well because it is so stiff. After I make my design I usually solder to an old bottle or wine decanter, etc. They look great but they are not sturdy. I have spent so much time and money on supplies and I am still having problems. Do you have any ideas why they won't hold together. I give the joints plenty of solder but I now know that it is the copper foil. I have bought new several times and in different backing, silver, black and copper.; I really need some help. Thanks so much.

Aug 02, 2008
Foiling Textured Glass NEW
by: Colin Burdett

Your comments are spot on, may I add I use a hair dryer to warm the glass before foiling and it sticks like you would not believe, every time, all of the time.

Dec 12, 2007
Thank You For a good Question NEW
by: Sue

Hi Donna,

Foiling rough textures is something that causes lots of problems. By asking that question, I'm sure many people will benefit from it. Thanks for asking it.

Sue

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